Under the Surface is a leadership podcast for CEOs, CFOs, and decision-makers who understand that the hardest challenges rarely make it into public conversations. Hosted by Paul Zyla, the show moves beyond trends and technology hype to explore governance, risk, independence, and the real tradeoffs shaping modern organizations.

Through candid conversations with business leaders, operators, and fractional executives, Under the Surface reveals what it truly takes to lead with clarity, protect what matters, and build organizations designed for long-term resilience — not short-term noise.